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Julie Rowe Interview, July 16, 2014
Q: Your experience occurred on Sep 28, 2004, but you were instructed not to share it until now. Why?
I wasn’t instructed to remain silent to everyone, but I was instructed to remain silent about the majority of what I’ve been shown, and I’ve been instructed to still remain silent about many things that just pertain to knowledge for me and for my family, for my learning and growth.
There are specific things that I’ve been shown that are part of my mission; we each have a foreordained mission in this life, and part of what was shown to me was that I agreed to this in the councils of heaven, that it would be part of my mortal experience, that I would serve as a witness to testify of many things, but first and foremost of God’s love and His Plan of Salvation for us.
So on the timing of things, pertaining to some specific things that I witnessed and am to testify of, have to do with the coming days, as prophesied for thousands of years in the scriptures including in the Book of Mormon, in reference to the last days that we are living in, including the final hours before the Savior’s coming. The covenant I made was that if I was to be shown these things, I promised to heed the counsel of the Lord and of those that knew more than I do, and in that I would need to discern very carefully who I shared what with, when and how. For example, some things I shared with my husband, and some things I shared with my children when they were ready, and things I could share with trusted confidants who would be of support and strength of me to carry this, which has weighed very hard on me. At times it has felt like a great weight and a burden. As time has gone on, it will be ten years this September, and I have seen more and more things come to fruition that I was shown that would occur. As we draw closer, it’s a very surreal experience. I have no words for it other than to say that, as time has gone on, I actually have more clarity on those things today than when I awoke from my experience.
Q: Some of these scenes in your vision have been repeated several times for your clarity, correct?
Yes. The Lord, in his tender mercies, has given me a lot of practice. What I mean by that is, as I have sought to have faith and trust in Him and try to understand and discern what it was that I was shown and what I was to do with that, He has given me additional dreams and impressions and other experiences that have served as reminders of some of the things that I was shown. Not of everything, but on some of the critical issues and key events that would occur. Things that stand out are details of many of the scriptural stories that came alive for me.
I need to add that this experience is not about my near-death experience. This is about me serving as a witness and as a testifier of eternal truths that were planned from the beginning, and me just doing my little part to help build up the kingdom and prepare us for the days ahead.
Q: It seems to me that more and more people are having these near-death experiences all over the world.
I was given specific counsel on many things, and one of them was how to deal with the trials that would come to pass prior to and after sharing my story. One of the things I was counseled not to do was not to research or read other people’s experiences, but that I needed to have my story written and shared authentically as my own, and not convoluted with someone else’s experience. My book is very simple and straightforward, and was purposefully written in that manner so it could be very easily read by all denominations and the younger generation. Although I am of the LDS faith, this was not written only to the LDS community. The Lord loves all of his children equally, and it was written to everyone to spread a message of love and hope and light, and also as a voice of warning and guidance.
After my book was published, I read four or five other experiences, and it was eye-opening for me because of the similarities of what others have had.
Q: You saw a missile fly from Libya to Israel. Can you describe more details and consequences?
I have boundaries that the Lord has given me, so I can only speak of what I have clarity on. What I can share is that I do know that the United States is involved in it as are many other countries within the United Nations, and although Libya launches the missile, Iran takes the credit for it. It is launched towards Israel, but I cannot go into specifics as to how and when, in part because I don’t know, and in part because I don’t have absolutely clarity on it.
Q: Many members of the LDS faith have a concern, why have the prophets and apostles not spoken about this?
This has been preached for thousands of years, and our latter day prophets have spoken about these types of events. We need to read our scriptures and let the spirit teach us. The specific detail about something like the missile coming from Libya may not be in their teachings, but I truly believe that if The Lord wants us to know that, He’ll tell us that. For whatever reason, part of my experience was that I was shown that.
Q: Many people have the concern, “Who is this Julie? What makes her so special?” And, “She doesn’t have stewardship.”
I am not any more special that any of God’s other children. We all have a foreordained mission and this is part of mine.
I agree, I don’t have stewardship. Although I have been shown things, I have to stay within the bounds that the Lord has given me, and I cannot cross those bounds or I will lose the trust of our Father in Heaven and our Savior, and I will not have the Spirit with me. One of the most important messages that I am to share is that we are to learn how to identify, and discern to the point that we can fine-tune, how the Spirit speaks to us individually, so that as the days go on, we can know for ourselves every bit of truth that the Lord would have us know, and we can know how to direct our friends, our family members, and how we can help ourselves and our loved ones. That can only come through the Spirit of the Holy Ghost.
Q: Back to the missile from Libya. You said the U.S. is behind it?
The U.S. and many other governments are behind it, just like the U.S. is behind many things that are either not reported or are misreported.
Q: Is it a nuclear device? Did you see a nuclear explosion?
I saw many different types of explosions all over the world and in the U.S., and I can’t go into great detail.
Q: What about in Jerusalem?
There will be the destruction of some of the Wailing Wall, some of the synagogues and other Jewish holy sites as well as the Dome of the Rock. The Jewish people have been waiting for some time to rebuild the temple, and that needs to be built where the Dome of the Rock currently is, and so those factors will come into play further down the road.
Q: Is the Garden Tomb the place where Christ was laid to rest?
That’s one of those questions I’m not allowed to get specific on, but it is definitely sacred ground.
Q: Many people have felt a sense of urgency to get prepared. Are we running out of time?
Time is getting short. The Lord’s timing is perfect, and he is not going to stay or hasten his return based on anything that we do. The time is now, do not delay.
Q: What do you say to the skeptics who say you and others with near-death experiences who write books, that think you are just in it for the money?
They must not know how little we make. I earn roughly 43 cents per book. I wish I could personally give each person on the planet a book, it’s that important. Also, my appearances like the one at the Logan tabernacle tomorrow are all free.
Q: You’ve seen what we’re about to see, and it’s not pretty is it?
A lot of it is not pretty, but a lot of it is. When the seven years of tribulation start, as prophesied in the scriptures, it will be absolutely horrendous. However, where there is increased darkness, there will also be increased light. My understanding is that ministering and guardian angels who are presently working in the spirit world will be assigned to help us here in this world, to help us to combat the darker powers and also to aid us and protect us, so we have glorious days ahead, beautiful and miraculous days, but we are headed for some very, very difficult days.
Q: What kind of travail did you see here in the United States?
I don’t know where to start. My main message is supposed to be of light and hope and healing, and not to be a doomsdayer. I am not a doomsdayer because I know this is part of God’s plan and I know it is essential for us that we have a cleansing of the earth, a cleansing of the people, both in and out of the church, and a cleansing here in the USA, where we have more and more forsaken our God, and God will not be mocked. It has been prophesied in all of the scriptures, including John and Daniel, that while there will be great tribulation, there will be miracles. There are miracles every day all around us but we don’t open our eyes or ears or hearts to feeling the love that is available to us and around and recognizing the miracles that happen in our lives every day. But there will come a point in time where the powers of darkness will be so overwhelmingly real, and so completely apparent, and the powers of light will be so overwhelmingly real, and so completely apparent, that there will no longer be an option for us to fence-sit, or to straddle back and forth, or to pick and choose what we want to do from one day to the next. There will come a point in time when it will become a matter of life and death, both physically, spiritually and temporally speaking, that we choose who our master is.
Q: One of the things that you have been shown is what happens in our country concerning how corrupt our government will become.
It is pretty corrupt now, but it will be much more corrupt than it is. If we were not over the air, I would share more with you one on one.
Q: Many Christians and LDS members believe that the Lord is simply going to protect everybody and they don’t need to worry about a thing.
There will be places of refuge set up by various churches, and there will be protection from angelic beings, from our priesthood power, and from the miracles that occur based on the faith of those involved, however, that does not mean that it is going to be easy. Anyone who has gone through a difficult time, which we all have, can recognize that great learning and growth occur, but that it did not come easily. The Lord will cleanse his church, and his people, and the purpose of that is that we are preparing for the return of our Lord and Master and King of Kings, but before He can arrive, and take His rightful place on this earth, we need to be a Zion people and we need to be cleansed in every way: physically, temporally, spiritually, mentally, emotionally on every level. Included in that means that there will be a cleansing in the church, in the United States, in the world, and that will happen in the places of refuge, in the camps, and it will be a refiner’s fire like we have never known. But those outside of the camps will suffer sorrow and tragedy and hardships that do not even compare.
Q: I want to talk about the plagues, and earthquakes, and roving bands, and criminal behavior that you’ve seen, because I want people to understand why there is a gathering.
First I want to say that this is a heavy topic. Anyone who knows me well knows that I am serious when needs be, but I am the kind of person who likes to have a sense of humor and lighten things up. That said, this topic is of such a serious nature that even as you asked that question, my tendency was to shy away and crawl under this desk. I normally don’t like to talk about it because it gives credence to the powers of the dark. But I will say as a voice of warning, that the things I have been shown are horrific and beyond imagination. My understanding is that what I have been shown is worse than any horror film that has been made by man.
Having said that, you can read in the Book of Revelations that there will be many plagues, and some of the details I address in my book, I don’t want to go over them again in the time that we have. Anyone can also read their scriptures. I will say that some of these plagues are deliberately caused and made by man, and some have already been developed, and some are being fine-tuned, and it will not be long. I cannot prophesy and tell people specifically, I do not have stewardship for that, but I can tell people this: now is the time. Do not delay in your spiritual preparedness or in your temporal preparedness. As we are preparing, we need to use our brains, look around at the signs of the times happening all around us in the world, pay attention, and open your heart to the importance to the fact that there are some big things that have happened in the history of our world and big things that are now happening.
Q: What do you know about the Ebola outbreak?
That is one that I was shown was coming, and as it has hit the news in recent months, it has been a little alarm going off for me, and it will continue to spread.
Q: You saw a man-made plague that was poured out among a large city, do you know where?
I do but I cannot disclose where, and it will happen in more than one city. It will happen initially in one large city, and then they will attempt it in others, and in a couple of them they will not be successful, but it will eventually spread.
Q: You did see specific cities that you did mention though.
Yes, I saw the Leaning Tower of Pisa get destroyed, and Big Ben, as well as other historical buildings and monuments in Europe and all over the world, but I used those as specific examples because those are places that I think your average American knows. If you can think of significant monuments that have any historical, spiritual, or other type of relevance or meaning for certain lands or the people in the lands, you can essentially expect that they’re going to be destroyed in some way or the other, either man-made due to false flags, or due the destruction of foreign nations, or members of our own government destroying our own monuments, and also natural calamities.
Q: Do “false flags” begin to play a very important role in what’s coming?
They’ve been playing a role for a long time, and it will increasingly play a role.
Q: You’ve talked about horrific earthquakes that will cause havoc, including here on the Wasatch Front.
What I put in the book was only a fraction of the travails that are to come. I only discussed a fraction because it was going to the general population, and to keep from causing a widespread panic, because that behavior is not of the Lord. It’s not of the Lord to be a doomsdayer, or a fearmonger. What is of the Lord is to be a voice of warning but I will tell you, what the book tells is a small, small, small, tiny sampling of what will be experienced on the earth. The earth is weighed down and absolutely sick. Not just from the pollutions and the mistreatment of the earth, but even more so due to the wickedness and the negative energies and entities and everything that has happened in the history of the earth, the earth is sick, and literally heavy, and weighed down, and ready to be cleansed. There are several reasons why we are going to have these destructions but that is one of them, to help prepare the earth to be cleansed.
Q: A lot of people want to believe that they’re not going to have to live through this, if they will pass away first.
Many of us are going to live through this. Some people will pass away, and it’s possible that some people may know when they are going to pass away, but for me, that’s not how the Lord has worked with me, or any individuals I know, He doesn’t give us exact dates and times, because then where would the faith be? Faith without works is dead, and faith is an action word.
Depending on the choices that we make, and depending on what our foreordained mission is, and depending on where the Lord would have us serve, will all come into play. So for the people who look at death as an easier escape, I can understand that. If you were to look at the signs of the times and knowing that we are in for some severe tribulations, there are those that will literally die of broken hearts, there are those that will literally give up the ghost out of fear, and there will be those that by all accounts should have not survived, whether it’s due to plagues, some other sickness, an illness they’ve struggled with their whole life, a debilitating illness or disease that’s life-threatening and say they can’t get their medication, or they don’t have their dialysis, if it’s the Lord’s will, I know that those people will live through it, they will be healed.
Q: It seems the real message you have is that although bad things will happen, the Lord is in charge.
Absolutely. Satan would have us believe that he’s the big guy and he’s running the show. If you know anyone who is a pathological liar, that is someone who tells so many lies that they begin to believe their own lies, Satan is like that to an extent. He is the master deceiver, and to a degree he knows that this is a losing battle, but he is not going to go out without a fight, and he knows that he will have his victory days for a while.
Q: I have been astounded by the open and notorious lying by top leaders in our government.
It’s everywhere. It’s become so blatant that they don’t even hide it anymore, and it’s nothing compared to what’s coming.
Q: The government has been buying millions of rounds of ammo and supplying their own workers with it, as though they are preparing for an internal war. Will Martial Law be declared in the U.S.? Will it be declared in Utah? Will there be a dirty nuclear weapon used in Utah? Will people be put to death at some point if they don’t take the CHIP implant?
The answer is yes to all of those. They are real and they are going to happen.
Familiarize yourself with the story of the saints in Haun’s Mill. It is a type of things to come. First, the saints did not listen to the prophet, and then they were deceived by the mill’s owner. The saints asked the owner to have his messenger ask the prophet whether they should stay at the mill, and the prophet said to leave the mill and return to Far West, but the messenger lied to them and said the prophet said to stay and they would be fine. Then they were all massacred by a mob in disguise, who arrived under the guise of bringing a peacekeeping treaty to coexist. Their technique was to say, for your own safety and welfare, and as a sign of cooperation with us (the local leaders), hand over your arms. The majority did, and the mob massacred everyone including the women and children.
Again, that is a type for what we will experience. Do not give up your arms, and recognize that we will have places of safety. The majority of these travails will occur after we have been invited to gather, and those that heed the counsel will be protected from that type of chaos.
Q: How many saints did you see obeying the counsel to gather?
Sadly, most don’t. It is tragic, and a word of warning to those out there.
Q: Concerning women’s movements who are militating to get the priesthood in violation of the plan, is there going to be wickedness of women following the adversary and will it have a bad effect on the community?
I think that’s a pretty common sense answer, we see it now and we will see it increasingly so. But having said that, my heart goes out to those women and men, because what it says to me is that they just don’t quite understand the plan, yet. We need to be careful about our judgments, but we also need to be wise stewards. It falls back onto what I said earlier about learning to discern how the spirit speaks to us, and I can’t say that enough. We need to be able to discern the good and the bad, and have that protection that the Lord is waiting and willing to provide us now, and even more so in the future. As for those individuals, it is also never too late. I’ve had people in my life who have made choices, including myself, that have meant a need to repent, and the Lord is a very loving, very merciful God. He is not a God of wrath and anger as some might portray. All of the Godhead are personages of light and love who want us to succeed. They don’t want to keep us out of the kingdom. They are not going to take agency away; it is contrary to the eternal laws, but they will do anything and everything in their power within those laws to gather their sheep and to bring their children home and to persuade in any way they can, those that are of the light, and that’s the complete opposite of the designs of the adversary.
Q: What classes can we take and what skills can we develop now to help us, besides the spiritual things that are preeminent?
Communication skills will be essential, because there will be a time when communications are discontinued or interrupted. Ham radio would be good to skill to develop.
Alternative healing, and there’s a broad spectrum there, though I would caution those involved in it to discern, because the adversary can and will imitate anything that is of the light, so don’t throw it all out and say that it’s all bad.
Essential oils and energy healing is of the light, but there are those that are channeled through the dark, so you need to pray about it and discern what is right. Satan wants you to throw it all out and say that it’s wrong, but the Lord wants you to discern.
Medical doctors, nurses, and hands-on medical training will be essential, and I’ve had hundreds of people contact me and say that they’ve had impressions of things that they need to learn. I had one friend who felt she needed to learn how to keep bees, and that was interesting because I’ve seen beehives and beekeepers in the camps. So that’s a skill that a person may feel they are impressed to learn. There are so many things on a preparation level, and they are all things that will be important, whether you go or stay. They are important skills for us to have now, and they will be important through the tribulations, and in the eternities.
Q: Some of the disasters that I’ve had in my life were when I’ve ignored promptings.
Same with me. I’ve had many people ask me, “How do I know if what I’m feeling is a prompting from God, or if it was just from me, how can I discern that?” Some of my learning curves has come from times when I failed to heed the promptings of the spirit, and I’ve paid dear consequences of that. Because of that, I’ve learned to more recognize the promptings, and it takes practice. But unfortunately in our future, there’s going to be some things that we really can’t afford to get wrong. I will say that a starting point, is that if it’s something that motivates you to do good or of the light, does it really matter if it came from God or from your brain? Because the way the Lord works is, he doesn’t command in all things and he wants us to learn, and once we learn that, then He doesn’t necessarily have to tell us every time. So it can come from us, and it can come from the Lord, and we give credit to the Lord no matter what.
The ministering and guardian angels on the other side of the veil are our ancestors, and they literally whisper in our ears and inspire us, and we might have thoughts and impressions come to our mind. Act on them. If they are good and of the light, then they are of God, and act on them. If they’re not of the light and are not something good, then you can recognize the source there and you can do what you need to do to get rid of that and then focus on the light.
Thoughts are energies, so focus on the light. Focus on hope, focus on love, focus on gratitude, and you will find that it will come back tenfold and they will help open the way for you to increase your faith and they all go hand in hand. The scriptures say that without charity we are nothing but in order to have charity, we have to have faith and hope.
Q: Did you see 9/11?
Some of it.
Q: Was it caused by our government or caused by Saudi Arabians as has been portrayed?
I can’t go into detail but can say that gaddiantons on every level were involved.
Q: What do we have to do to be cleansed?
That is individual. What I need may be different from what someone else needs. Hopefully we work on it and do what we need to do through the power of the atonement. My hope is that I can get to the point where I can immediately recognize where I’ve erred and correct it immediately, and ultimately get to the point where I’m making fewer and fewer mistakes. But we’re never going to get perfect on this earth and that’s why we have a Savior, and that’s the mission of Jesus Christ. Recognize that he’s the Savior of all mankind. He has already suffered for us and to not utilize that is not only foolish but needless, because the price has already been paid and we need to accept that gift in our lives. One of Satan’s greatest tools is discouragement and when we have messed up on whatever level, he tries to convince us that we’re too late, that we’re too awful, that we’re sin bound, and one of his greatest tactics is shame. If you are feeling shame in your life, that is not of the Lord. Shame is different than guilt. Guilt is the natural consequence of poor choices we’ve made and it’s given to us through the light of Christ and that’s how me know that we need to make a correction, and that’s different from shame. If we have done something wrong and we have done something wrong and we have made it right through confessing it and fixing it, we need to forgive ourselves and let it go. To fail to do so, only gives the adversary power, and until we let go of that, we cannot move forward.
Q: Why do you have to remain so obscure and quiet about so many things that you’ve seen?
There’s going to come a day when everyone is going to know, and I’m looking forward to that, when the veil is gone. People will know that this was my mission, and they will understand. I’ve been told a little about why the Lord wants it to be this way and it’s not a secret thing, it’s a sacred thing, and is absolute factual truth, and some things are only meant for me. I do not have stewardship and it is wrong of me to tell any other individual what choices would be right for them to make, and it’s a very fine line, and I face very heavy consequences if I cross that, and I am not willing to do that, so I would rather err on the side of caution.
Also, it’s a trust thing. The Lord has trusted me and that’s no small thing. Additionally, there are some things that are too sacred. It might be appropriate for me to have a one-on-one conversation, but I’m not going to say things over the air, or put them in a book, or put them all over the internet. I don’t know the intents of an individual’s heart and what he plans to do with the information unless the spirit tells me, if he plans to twist and turn my words and the things that are of the light into something that is not of the Lord.
Q: Did you see the Meadow Mountain Massacre?
Yes but I don’t have a lot of clarity on it. I remember basics but not enough, and it has been my experience that if the Lord wants me to share it, I will have clarity it, so I can’t get into it.
Q: Will the Ten Tribes return in the next 5 or 10 years do you think, or later, or before the second coming?
We all have our time here on earth, and I have some clarity but can’t give you specifics because I don’t have stewardship. Also, there are some things that were made known to me to help me have clarity and understanding as it pertains to my life, and how long I may or may not be on the earth. What I can say is I have the understanding that it will happen in my lifetime, and I will be 42 in January.
Q: What is God’s position on homosexual marriage?
I cannot speak for God. Anyone who wants to know His position should ask Him. He’s already given His word in the Bible.
Q: Children are presently allowed to cross our borders, and are flooding in by the hundreds of thousands. Is this part of an invasion of our country?
It’s the beginning. It’s been prophesied in scripture and there will be more coming, both from the north and from the south.
Q: Do you see this as part of the “mobs that will go through our land as a lion?”
Absolutely. This is just a little precursor to desensitize us. Again I need to emphasize, those who heed the call to gather are not going to be protected from everything, because it is a cleansing for all of us, but the invasion will occur after.
Q: We have a presidential election coming up in 2016. There has been much speculation over things that are going on in our government right now, and the fact that the last election was stolen. There may not even be an actual election. Do you have any comment on that?
Correction, the last two elections were stolen. When you are invited to gather, you need to join. Don’t delay. I have been shown some of that and I need to be careful how I say this so my words are not misconstrued. My understanding is that martial law will be declared after the gathering.
Q: To reiterate, you are not saying to be packed and ready to go right now, but to get prepared?
Right now we need to be preparing. When the time comes to go, we can’t prepare then; we need to be prepared and ready. For now, we still need to be “planting our cherry trees,” we still need to live our lives. Spiritual preparedness goes hand in hand with temporal preparedness. If you are preparing spiritually the way you need to be, the spirit will prompt you how you need to temporally prepare.
Q: Was Muhammad a real prophet or a misguided one?
(Long pause) That’s not part of the mission I have to testify and witness of Christ.
Q: In the Salt Lake valley you saw a couple of major earthquakes. Describe what you saw.
The small earthquakes that you’ve had over the past month or two were the beginning warning earthquakes, and there are going to be a few other warning earthquakes, maybe a little bit bigger than what you had or about the same. The really big ones will come, and I’ve seen them many times.
Hurricane-like winds, tornadoes, lightning, thunder, mudslides, water coming up from the earth, lakes and rivers heaving beyond their bounds, complete chaos, lots of flooding. I actually thought of it while I was driving here from Pleasant Grove, how the point of the mountain is going to slide right off. The temples will be protected, there will be some damage done to them but they will withstand. Entire homes demolished, and it will be truly horrific.
Q: Is that before or after the gathering?
After, and one of the reasons I know that is because I was shown pertains to my family because we come from the Kansas City area and travel a route that brings us south, through New Mexico, Arizona, Price Canyon, and we spend a night or two in Utah county before we reach our final destination which is in a camp further north. We have to travel the highways that go through Utah county, Salt Lake, and Wasatch county. I was shown that when those earthquakes occur, the highways will become impassible. And when we traveled, there was a real sense of urgency.
Q: How will the message be given to the saints that it’s time to leave?
I can’t speak for every area in the world, because I wasn’t shown that, I don’t have stewardship and other areas don’t pertain to me, but I saw that in my area, it would be a broadcast. First a letter from the First Presidency that was read from the pulpit, and then a broadcast at 6 or 7 at night. It won’t be general information given from the bishop or stake president but it will be official communications through the First Presidency.
Q: It’s been my experience that some members will hear of a special meeting and think, “nah.”
Oh yes. There are lots of members who will say, “ehh, I don’t want to be at that.” You want to be at that meeting. The other thing that I saw, and I think this will resonate with anyone who has ever had small children: we will be encouraged to have both spouses at the meeting. Nobody will force anyone to attend; we will be encouraged. There will be cases when one spouse or even both spouses choose not to attend, and sadly in some situations I did see that when one spouse attends and the other spouse asks what the meeting was about, they don’t really give the message, similar to the way that Joseph Haun did not give the prophet’s message to the saints at the mill.
Q: There are professional anti’s out there, who want to discredit anyone who has had an experience that is faith-promoting and reaffirms a belief in Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ.
If you come across someone like that, please come to my defense because I’m not going to have the time to defend myself to everyone like that. My mission is to witness and to testify, and there is nothing to defend. It is the truth and I will not be put in a position where I need to defend. It’s my understanding that there are some online forums where people are trying to stir the pot and do whatever they can to dissent or take away from the message that the Lord would have us to know, and to those I say “Stop it.” You do not know what you are messing with and I am not talking about me. I’m talking about the ultimate higher power.
Q: Father wouldn’t have given you this experience if there wasn’t some purpose for it.
Right, and I can tell you that what I am doing is no easy thing. The only reason I am able to do it is because I know what I know, and I have a conviction and such a strong love for our Father in Heaven and our Savior, and have such respect for their knowledge and their power, that I fear man far less than I fear God, to the point that I almost do not fear man because I know who my master is.
Having said that, I’m not inviting anyone to “bring it on.” I’ve had several years of preparation and I’ve had a tough couple of months. Calling me the names that I’ve been called is not going to shake my testimony or shake my faith in delivering the message that I have to give. They really should save their energy. Again, that is not a challenge. I just want to say that the Lord loves all of his children, and often those who are the most anti-religion or anti-light, I like to think that they are just confused and don’t know. It softens my heart because I think, when there are those who do that on any level, it is not of the light. This is not about me, this is about what does the Lord want us to know? To me, that’s the end of the conversation.
Whenever we are faced with opposition of any kind, we can back down from the challenge, or we can recognize the source of that opposition, and remember that opposition is part of the plan, and that opposition gives me clarity and understanding and greater faith and a sure knowledge of how important this message really is.
Q: Absolutely nothing that you’ve said today contradicts the scriptures or the words of the brethren.
I would hope that if there comes a day when I do, that someone would call me on it, because that’s what I would do for my brother or sister.
Q: The scriptures talk of a separation of the wheat from the tares in the last days. Did you see any of this?
Yes, it’s been going on and is going to keep going on and will intensify, but it’s necessary. Anything that’s in the scriptures has a purpose, and for our learning and our growth in our day. It wouldn’t be in the scriptures if it wasn’t going to come to pass.
Q: Would you say that this movement of women who want the priesthood is part of that separation?
My feelings on that are personal so I’m not going to get into that, but what I will share is that there are many siftings going on all over, and most often we sift ourselves.
Q: What type of transportation will we use to go to New Jerusalem?
There’s going to be the initial gathering, and then later on there will be specific individuals who will be called to go establish the New Jerusalem. Not everyone, but specific people assigned to do that, and there will be people called to go back to their homes and lands, and sometimes they will be asked to go to foreign lands. At that point in time there will be different types of transportation, but I would say the primary mode of transportation is by foot, and that is also prophesied in the scriptures, and is one of the reasons why it is good to pay attention to the early pioneer stories.
Q: During your experience, did you see any undiscovered species of animals on the earth that are yet to be found?
Yes. I’m not going to tell you what they are because I don’t remember all of their names, but I have impressions in my mind, and I remember that that was explained to me. And I saw many that are not on the earth now.
Q: How about Yeti?
My kids asked about this because Bigfoot is near and dear to them. So for the people who want to criticize and explain me away as some crazy lady, I’m going to give you some ammunition: do some research on Bigfoot.
Q: So it’s real, then?
I think if someone was to research it, they could come to that answer themselves. That’s just a funny little tidbit that is not part of my mission and can distract, so we don’t want to focus on it.
Honestly, any truth that the Lord wants us to know, no matter what it is, He will make it known to us. Anything that’s scientific, non-falsified true science, goes hand in hand with true doctrine.
Q: That makes me think about Global Warming.
There are weather pattern changes going on, but look to the scriptures for that and take it as the sign of the times that we are in.
Q: Many organizations talk about a dark star that is approaching the earth, some refer to it as Planet X, did you see anything like this?
I have. There’s that one and there are others. Some will get very close to the earth and we will have splinters off of meteors and such, and some of those are just preparatory for what’s coming for the ultimate final cleansing. Some of it is to test man’s faith and add to the signs of the times.
Also, one of the reason is it serves the natural laws of the universe that have always been in play, and anyone who studies any kind of earth sciences and physics can understand those from a logical scientific standpoint, but all true science and all spiritual religious truths all go hand in hand, there is no conflict there, so yes, we are going to have them, along with the blood moons, which there is significance to, that I cannot get into.
Q: What about the fact that these events like Blood Moons are occurring on specific holy days?
They are not coincidental. One of President Monson’s frequent teachings is that there are no coincidences. It’s not coincidental that you meet certain individuals in your life, it’s not coincidental that we have certain circumstances happen to us, it’s not coincidental that we have those blood moons on those specific days, and it’s not coincidental that we’re having meteors or anything else, it’s all part of the grand plan.
Q: Will it be only saints gathering in the tent cities before the earthquake?
There will be regular tent cities that I call “places of refuge,” which are organized, assigned, set up and established properties owned by the LDS church, and there will be other denominations with their own tent cities and places. And then there will be those places of refuge that later on will become cities of light, but quite honestly, discussing them over the air to a general audience is not an appropriate setting to give more clarification at this time.
But there will be tent cities, and even within those places of refuge there will be some non-LDS members, and there will be baptisms, family history work, and those kinds of things that pertain to the eternal purposes that God has for us will still be going on. Just think third-world country.
When it comes to tent cities of whatever denomination, after we are called to gather and then the foreign troops invade and many disasters begin happening, there are safety in numbers so people will begin naturally gathering into tent cities, either because they’ve lost their homes and/or there’s no electricity or communication.
Q: So there will there will be safety in those groups?
Varying degrees of safety, depending on where you are.
Q: You saw your husband out on patrol in a place of refuge, so that means we will be responsible for defending ourselves?
Yes.
Q: Concerning the timing, you said something about your husband’s hair?
What I was shown was at the time that we leave the Kansas City area and go to the places of refuge, he has about as much hair as he has right now. He’s losing a little on top, and he has about that much now. What I was shown was he didn’t have very much grey, and he’s just now starting to get some grey.
Q: So if you were to guess, would you say that this change is going to happen in the next 2 to 3 years?
Rather than answer like that, let me give you an example, and take this with a grain of salt.
(Pauses) Wow. (Pause) I’m going into a pause right now. (Pause) Something that I will say and I’m going to put this out there, is that the veil is very thin for me, and I’m not going to go into detail other than to say that I, in a very real way, experience both the light and the dark and the impact that they can have, and what I’m about to share with you, those of the dark do not want you to know. So take heed, and listen.
We’ve been married over 18 years, and we always buy used cars. Our pattern has always been that we keep our cars for approximately 5 years because we buy older cars that we can pay cash for. We always do what we can afford. My husband is very mechanically inclined, and that’s one of the reasons that we buy older cars, because he can work on them. Our pattern has been that he researches the cars, and then together we decide which vehicle is right.
When I had my experience I was shown that we were caravanning out, with his family and other people in the Kansas City area, and at that time I was shown what vehicle we were driving. I never told him what it was, I only told him it was an SUV. On one occasion I may have told him it was a dark-colored SUV, but I just know I never told him the style or the type or that it was a full-size SUV.
Last December, it was time for us to purchase another car. He had been researching cars for over a year, and had decided on a different make and model. Never once did I suggest to him the actual make and model of the car that we would purchase. I left that up to him. He found one online and immediately the spirit said, “that’s your car.” A week went by and he could not get it out of his brain. We ended up that afternoon going car shopping and we looked at 8 or 10 different cars, but the one he saw online was the one we ended up buying and it was the one that I was shown in 2004. We bought the car last December, we never keep a car more than 5 years, and we were driving that car to the place of refuge.
Q: How much can you talk about the 2016 election?
How much can I or how much will I? I’m not going to go there because it’s irrelevant to the message that I have which is to get your houses in order, get prepared, and heed the call.
Q: Do you know of good companies that are involved in helping people get prepared?
I know there are several, I don’t personally know them, and we have the internet which is a great resource, but of course we can’t trust everything on the internet.
Q: Some people question what they should do with their expired food storage.
Do not throw it out. I would even venture to say that if you have thirty-year-old wheat, keep it anyway. I want to emphasize, do not throw it out. It will be helpful, if not to you, to someone else, and we are going to see miracles happen in the future and some of that food that has gone rancid, will be purified and made edible. If you know someone who is going to throw theirs out, ask if you can have it.
Q: Is there anything specific we should do with our diet now?
That’s been given to us. Just follow Section 89, read between the lines, and the spirit will help you with that.
Q: You wanted to say something about the plagues?
It’s been made known to me that there will be those who claim to have come up with miracle cures for the plagues. They are either deceiving or they are deceived and seek to deceive. There is not a cure-all for the plagues; there are going to be so many plagues and some will be man-made. There will be some things that will help, like some of the essential oils and things like that, but be aware of Plague-B-Gones. I have been shown that there are people who will claim that they’ve had divine intervention and that angels told them how to make it, and to them I say that not every angel is an angel of the light.
Q: Do you see anything with the Yellowstone caldera cook-off soon, with the roads there currently melting?
When I heard the news, I did immediately recognize that as something that I was shown. To anyone going there I would just say, use your brains, the Lord gave them to you for a reason, don’t do anything foolish, and don’t go anywhere that has been closed off.
Q: Do you know of more happening there more towards the cleansing period, rather than before the Savior comes?
I do not have total clarity and recollection as to the timing of that, if it was made known to me I don’t remember it, which tells me that the Lord does not want me discussing that and doesn’t even want me knowing that, either because it’s irrelevant to what’s going on in my life and my purpose and mission, or it’s irrelevant to why He chose to have me give this message. It’s not part of the message that I’m supposed to give.
That being said, pay attention to what’s going on and be wise, but we do not need to be fearful. We need to have faith.
Q: You’ve seen deception and evil in the highest levels of government, and it’s going to get worse?
That’s correct, and there are no words. I honestly don’t know how I can even begin to express, and perhaps that’s also because I’m not supposed to, because my message is on putting your trust and your faith in the Lord and His plan, and not getting caught up and being fearful and the doomsday and all of the awfulness.
We are living in a beautiful day and age, and I wish there were a way that I could vividly explain and elaborate on how absolutely glorious it is going to be, and on how magnificent the experiences that we are going to have, and we can have them now. We just need to open our hearts.
Q: When we go to the tent cities, do we go with our individual families, or do we go as a ward or a stake?
Some of both. The church is an organization organized by stakes, and those are not details that we need to be concerned about, and I say that because the Lord has a plan for all of us and we just need to trust Him, and there will be so many different circumstances that I can’t speak for each individual.
Q: Did you get a feeling of how long we’ll be in the tent cities before things really fall apart?
That’s a relative term. Things will start to fall apart before we gather, but some of us will be asked to stay behind to help with some things, so it will be weeks before things start to really, really fall apart and come to fruition, and some things will not happen for quite some time, so that’s really a complex question. We’ll be in the camps for several years.
To illustrate, if you look in the scriptures, there are patterns that we can find there. For example, if you look at the story of Lot and his wife, the Lord warned Lot in advance, and then when He told him that it was time to go, they got out quickly, and then they were told to not look back. Same thing when Lehi led his family out of Jerusalem, he knew for many years that the day would come when he would need to lead his family, so they prepared, and then when it was time for the Lord to tell them that it was time to go, they had to act quickly and obediently.
Something that people may not know or recall, in many of those stories, like the days of Noah, it was nearly 120 years that he preached repentance and tried to prepare the people, and that’s no different than us. If you look at the history of even the LDS church, we’ve been given guidance and warnings for decades now, and when it’s time, it will be time, and time is short, meaning we need to be ready to act. We need to have our preparations in order and not to hesitate and not to look back.
Q: That is critical because what I’ve garnered from you is that there are going to be people who attend the meeting and say, “they’ve got to be kidding, I’m not going to leave. I’ve got a job, everything is fine, there is no chaos.”
Yes there will be that. And then there will be those stalwart individuals who, whether they have a knowledge of it or not, they do know how to trust their God, and trust their leaders, and they have learned to discern truth. Some will go out of mere obedience. It will take great faith, but for those who may not have faith, they may know how to act out of mere obedience.
But there will come a time when in order to stay in the camps and survive the camps and endure the camps, we will have to rely on our faith, because the destructions don’t happen the day after we get to camp. We are going to get news, I don’t have clarity on how it happens, but there’s going to be news that nothing really big has happened in the valley, there’s been no earthquake, there’s no foreign troops, what am I doing here? I have a perfectly nice home, nice car, a hot shower, I could sure use a bath, and it’s only two hours away, why am I camping in a tent in the middle of nowhere? This is crazy, this is ridiculous. And sadly, they leave. And when they leave, they will not be able to come back, and I can’t go into detail on that other than to say, that I did see so many different scenarios and one clear one was that people were there for a couple of weeks and they heard that nothing was going on in the valley, so they pack up their family and they leave, and then shortly after, wham-o. And I don’t want to be that person.
Q: Did you see any significant signs that happened just before we were told to leave?
They’ve been happening, they’re still happening, and they’re going to continue to happen. I can’t get into specifics other than to say, that we’ve all been given gifts and talents, and the Lord encourages all of his children, no matter what our status in life or upbringing, he has given the light of Christ to every single one of us.
Q: You have seen the Savior. You were shown that very sacred experience. What is it going to be like for those who are ready to have that experience?
Are we ever ready? I hope and pray every day that I am ready. I have a lot to work on. We have a very loving, tender, and merciful God, and He gives us the trials and tests that He does to help us grow, and help us prepare, and it’s all going to be just great.
Q: Thank you for sharing this experience and helping us to get a better understanding of what’s ahead.
I’d like to say something to the audience. If you find that this has been of interest of you, I appreciate it if you can invite people to log on and listen to the show, so they can listen with their own ears and discern with their own heart, rather than you interpreting it for them, because the message can be lost there.
Mills Crenshaw radio archives (then click on Julie Rowe):
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The first two chapters of her book can be read online:
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The ninth chapter:
http://www.nofearpreps.com/a-better-tomorrow.html
Q: Your experience occurred on Sep 28, 2004, but you were instructed not to share it until now. Why?
I wasn’t instructed to remain silent to everyone, but I was instructed to remain silent about the majority of what I’ve been shown, and I’ve been instructed to still remain silent about many things that just pertain to knowledge for me and for my family, for my learning and growth.
There are specific things that I’ve been shown that are part of my mission; we each have a foreordained mission in this life, and part of what was shown to me was that I agreed to this in the councils of heaven, that it would be part of my mortal experience, that I would serve as a witness to testify of many things, but first and foremost of God’s love and His Plan of Salvation for us.
So on the timing of things, pertaining to some specific things that I witnessed and am to testify of, have to do with the coming days, as prophesied for thousands of years in the scriptures including in the Book of Mormon, in reference to the last days that we are living in, including the final hours before the Savior’s coming. The covenant I made was that if I was to be shown these things, I promised to heed the counsel of the Lord and of those that knew more than I do, and in that I would need to discern very carefully who I shared what with, when and how. For example, some things I shared with my husband, and some things I shared with my children when they were ready, and things I could share with trusted confidants who would be of support and strength of me to carry this, which has weighed very hard on me. At times it has felt like a great weight and a burden. As time has gone on, it will be ten years this September, and I have seen more and more things come to fruition that I was shown that would occur. As we draw closer, it’s a very surreal experience. I have no words for it other than to say that, as time has gone on, I actually have more clarity on those things today than when I awoke from my experience.
Q: Some of these scenes in your vision have been repeated several times for your clarity, correct?
Yes. The Lord, in his tender mercies, has given me a lot of practice. What I mean by that is, as I have sought to have faith and trust in Him and try to understand and discern what it was that I was shown and what I was to do with that, He has given me additional dreams and impressions and other experiences that have served as reminders of some of the things that I was shown. Not of everything, but on some of the critical issues and key events that would occur. Things that stand out are details of many of the scriptural stories that came alive for me.
I need to add that this experience is not about my near-death experience. This is about me serving as a witness and as a testifier of eternal truths that were planned from the beginning, and me just doing my little part to help build up the kingdom and prepare us for the days ahead.
Q: It seems to me that more and more people are having these near-death experiences all over the world.
I was given specific counsel on many things, and one of them was how to deal with the trials that would come to pass prior to and after sharing my story. One of the things I was counseled not to do was not to research or read other people’s experiences, but that I needed to have my story written and shared authentically as my own, and not convoluted with someone else’s experience. My book is very simple and straightforward, and was purposefully written in that manner so it could be very easily read by all denominations and the younger generation. Although I am of the LDS faith, this was not written only to the LDS community. The Lord loves all of his children equally, and it was written to everyone to spread a message of love and hope and light, and also as a voice of warning and guidance.
After my book was published, I read four or five other experiences, and it was eye-opening for me because of the similarities of what others have had.
Q: You saw a missile fly from Libya to Israel. Can you describe more details and consequences?
I have boundaries that the Lord has given me, so I can only speak of what I have clarity on. What I can share is that I do know that the United States is involved in it as are many other countries within the United Nations, and although Libya launches the missile, Iran takes the credit for it. It is launched towards Israel, but I cannot go into specifics as to how and when, in part because I don’t know, and in part because I don’t have absolutely clarity on it.
Q: Many members of the LDS faith have a concern, why have the prophets and apostles not spoken about this?
This has been preached for thousands of years, and our latter day prophets have spoken about these types of events. We need to read our scriptures and let the spirit teach us. The specific detail about something like the missile coming from Libya may not be in their teachings, but I truly believe that if The Lord wants us to know that, He’ll tell us that. For whatever reason, part of my experience was that I was shown that.
Q: Many people have the concern, “Who is this Julie? What makes her so special?” And, “She doesn’t have stewardship.”
I am not any more special that any of God’s other children. We all have a foreordained mission and this is part of mine.
I agree, I don’t have stewardship. Although I have been shown things, I have to stay within the bounds that the Lord has given me, and I cannot cross those bounds or I will lose the trust of our Father in Heaven and our Savior, and I will not have the Spirit with me. One of the most important messages that I am to share is that we are to learn how to identify, and discern to the point that we can fine-tune, how the Spirit speaks to us individually, so that as the days go on, we can know for ourselves every bit of truth that the Lord would have us know, and we can know how to direct our friends, our family members, and how we can help ourselves and our loved ones. That can only come through the Spirit of the Holy Ghost.
Q: Back to the missile from Libya. You said the U.S. is behind it?
The U.S. and many other governments are behind it, just like the U.S. is behind many things that are either not reported or are misreported.
Q: Is it a nuclear device? Did you see a nuclear explosion?
I saw many different types of explosions all over the world and in the U.S., and I can’t go into great detail.
Q: What about in Jerusalem?
There will be the destruction of some of the Wailing Wall, some of the synagogues and other Jewish holy sites as well as the Dome of the Rock. The Jewish people have been waiting for some time to rebuild the temple, and that needs to be built where the Dome of the Rock currently is, and so those factors will come into play further down the road.
Q: Is the Garden Tomb the place where Christ was laid to rest?
That’s one of those questions I’m not allowed to get specific on, but it is definitely sacred ground.
Q: Many people have felt a sense of urgency to get prepared. Are we running out of time?
Time is getting short. The Lord’s timing is perfect, and he is not going to stay or hasten his return based on anything that we do. The time is now, do not delay.
Q: What do you say to the skeptics who say you and others with near-death experiences who write books, that think you are just in it for the money?
They must not know how little we make. I earn roughly 43 cents per book. I wish I could personally give each person on the planet a book, it’s that important. Also, my appearances like the one at the Logan tabernacle tomorrow are all free.
Q: You’ve seen what we’re about to see, and it’s not pretty is it?
A lot of it is not pretty, but a lot of it is. When the seven years of tribulation start, as prophesied in the scriptures, it will be absolutely horrendous. However, where there is increased darkness, there will also be increased light. My understanding is that ministering and guardian angels who are presently working in the spirit world will be assigned to help us here in this world, to help us to combat the darker powers and also to aid us and protect us, so we have glorious days ahead, beautiful and miraculous days, but we are headed for some very, very difficult days.
Q: What kind of travail did you see here in the United States?
I don’t know where to start. My main message is supposed to be of light and hope and healing, and not to be a doomsdayer. I am not a doomsdayer because I know this is part of God’s plan and I know it is essential for us that we have a cleansing of the earth, a cleansing of the people, both in and out of the church, and a cleansing here in the USA, where we have more and more forsaken our God, and God will not be mocked. It has been prophesied in all of the scriptures, including John and Daniel, that while there will be great tribulation, there will be miracles. There are miracles every day all around us but we don’t open our eyes or ears or hearts to feeling the love that is available to us and around and recognizing the miracles that happen in our lives every day. But there will come a point in time where the powers of darkness will be so overwhelmingly real, and so completely apparent, and the powers of light will be so overwhelmingly real, and so completely apparent, that there will no longer be an option for us to fence-sit, or to straddle back and forth, or to pick and choose what we want to do from one day to the next. There will come a point in time when it will become a matter of life and death, both physically, spiritually and temporally speaking, that we choose who our master is.
Q: One of the things that you have been shown is what happens in our country concerning how corrupt our government will become.
It is pretty corrupt now, but it will be much more corrupt than it is. If we were not over the air, I would share more with you one on one.
Q: Many Christians and LDS members believe that the Lord is simply going to protect everybody and they don’t need to worry about a thing.
There will be places of refuge set up by various churches, and there will be protection from angelic beings, from our priesthood power, and from the miracles that occur based on the faith of those involved, however, that does not mean that it is going to be easy. Anyone who has gone through a difficult time, which we all have, can recognize that great learning and growth occur, but that it did not come easily. The Lord will cleanse his church, and his people, and the purpose of that is that we are preparing for the return of our Lord and Master and King of Kings, but before He can arrive, and take His rightful place on this earth, we need to be a Zion people and we need to be cleansed in every way: physically, temporally, spiritually, mentally, emotionally on every level. Included in that means that there will be a cleansing in the church, in the United States, in the world, and that will happen in the places of refuge, in the camps, and it will be a refiner’s fire like we have never known. But those outside of the camps will suffer sorrow and tragedy and hardships that do not even compare.
Q: I want to talk about the plagues, and earthquakes, and roving bands, and criminal behavior that you’ve seen, because I want people to understand why there is a gathering.
First I want to say that this is a heavy topic. Anyone who knows me well knows that I am serious when needs be, but I am the kind of person who likes to have a sense of humor and lighten things up. That said, this topic is of such a serious nature that even as you asked that question, my tendency was to shy away and crawl under this desk. I normally don’t like to talk about it because it gives credence to the powers of the dark. But I will say as a voice of warning, that the things I have been shown are horrific and beyond imagination. My understanding is that what I have been shown is worse than any horror film that has been made by man.
Having said that, you can read in the Book of Revelations that there will be many plagues, and some of the details I address in my book, I don’t want to go over them again in the time that we have. Anyone can also read their scriptures. I will say that some of these plagues are deliberately caused and made by man, and some have already been developed, and some are being fine-tuned, and it will not be long. I cannot prophesy and tell people specifically, I do not have stewardship for that, but I can tell people this: now is the time. Do not delay in your spiritual preparedness or in your temporal preparedness. As we are preparing, we need to use our brains, look around at the signs of the times happening all around us in the world, pay attention, and open your heart to the importance to the fact that there are some big things that have happened in the history of our world and big things that are now happening.
Q: What do you know about the Ebola outbreak?
That is one that I was shown was coming, and as it has hit the news in recent months, it has been a little alarm going off for me, and it will continue to spread.
Q: You saw a man-made plague that was poured out among a large city, do you know where?
I do but I cannot disclose where, and it will happen in more than one city. It will happen initially in one large city, and then they will attempt it in others, and in a couple of them they will not be successful, but it will eventually spread.
Q: You did see specific cities that you did mention though.
Yes, I saw the Leaning Tower of Pisa get destroyed, and Big Ben, as well as other historical buildings and monuments in Europe and all over the world, but I used those as specific examples because those are places that I think your average American knows. If you can think of significant monuments that have any historical, spiritual, or other type of relevance or meaning for certain lands or the people in the lands, you can essentially expect that they’re going to be destroyed in some way or the other, either man-made due to false flags, or due the destruction of foreign nations, or members of our own government destroying our own monuments, and also natural calamities.
Q: Do “false flags” begin to play a very important role in what’s coming?
They’ve been playing a role for a long time, and it will increasingly play a role.
Q: You’ve talked about horrific earthquakes that will cause havoc, including here on the Wasatch Front.
What I put in the book was only a fraction of the travails that are to come. I only discussed a fraction because it was going to the general population, and to keep from causing a widespread panic, because that behavior is not of the Lord. It’s not of the Lord to be a doomsdayer, or a fearmonger. What is of the Lord is to be a voice of warning but I will tell you, what the book tells is a small, small, small, tiny sampling of what will be experienced on the earth. The earth is weighed down and absolutely sick. Not just from the pollutions and the mistreatment of the earth, but even more so due to the wickedness and the negative energies and entities and everything that has happened in the history of the earth, the earth is sick, and literally heavy, and weighed down, and ready to be cleansed. There are several reasons why we are going to have these destructions but that is one of them, to help prepare the earth to be cleansed.
Q: A lot of people want to believe that they’re not going to have to live through this, if they will pass away first.
Many of us are going to live through this. Some people will pass away, and it’s possible that some people may know when they are going to pass away, but for me, that’s not how the Lord has worked with me, or any individuals I know, He doesn’t give us exact dates and times, because then where would the faith be? Faith without works is dead, and faith is an action word.
Depending on the choices that we make, and depending on what our foreordained mission is, and depending on where the Lord would have us serve, will all come into play. So for the people who look at death as an easier escape, I can understand that. If you were to look at the signs of the times and knowing that we are in for some severe tribulations, there are those that will literally die of broken hearts, there are those that will literally give up the ghost out of fear, and there will be those that by all accounts should have not survived, whether it’s due to plagues, some other sickness, an illness they’ve struggled with their whole life, a debilitating illness or disease that’s life-threatening and say they can’t get their medication, or they don’t have their dialysis, if it’s the Lord’s will, I know that those people will live through it, they will be healed.
Q: It seems the real message you have is that although bad things will happen, the Lord is in charge.
Absolutely. Satan would have us believe that he’s the big guy and he’s running the show. If you know anyone who is a pathological liar, that is someone who tells so many lies that they begin to believe their own lies, Satan is like that to an extent. He is the master deceiver, and to a degree he knows that this is a losing battle, but he is not going to go out without a fight, and he knows that he will have his victory days for a while.
Q: I have been astounded by the open and notorious lying by top leaders in our government.
It’s everywhere. It’s become so blatant that they don’t even hide it anymore, and it’s nothing compared to what’s coming.
Q: The government has been buying millions of rounds of ammo and supplying their own workers with it, as though they are preparing for an internal war. Will Martial Law be declared in the U.S.? Will it be declared in Utah? Will there be a dirty nuclear weapon used in Utah? Will people be put to death at some point if they don’t take the CHIP implant?
The answer is yes to all of those. They are real and they are going to happen.
Familiarize yourself with the story of the saints in Haun’s Mill. It is a type of things to come. First, the saints did not listen to the prophet, and then they were deceived by the mill’s owner. The saints asked the owner to have his messenger ask the prophet whether they should stay at the mill, and the prophet said to leave the mill and return to Far West, but the messenger lied to them and said the prophet said to stay and they would be fine. Then they were all massacred by a mob in disguise, who arrived under the guise of bringing a peacekeeping treaty to coexist. Their technique was to say, for your own safety and welfare, and as a sign of cooperation with us (the local leaders), hand over your arms. The majority did, and the mob massacred everyone including the women and children.
Again, that is a type for what we will experience. Do not give up your arms, and recognize that we will have places of safety. The majority of these travails will occur after we have been invited to gather, and those that heed the counsel will be protected from that type of chaos.
Q: How many saints did you see obeying the counsel to gather?
Sadly, most don’t. It is tragic, and a word of warning to those out there.
Q: Concerning women’s movements who are militating to get the priesthood in violation of the plan, is there going to be wickedness of women following the adversary and will it have a bad effect on the community?
I think that’s a pretty common sense answer, we see it now and we will see it increasingly so. But having said that, my heart goes out to those women and men, because what it says to me is that they just don’t quite understand the plan, yet. We need to be careful about our judgments, but we also need to be wise stewards. It falls back onto what I said earlier about learning to discern how the spirit speaks to us, and I can’t say that enough. We need to be able to discern the good and the bad, and have that protection that the Lord is waiting and willing to provide us now, and even more so in the future. As for those individuals, it is also never too late. I’ve had people in my life who have made choices, including myself, that have meant a need to repent, and the Lord is a very loving, very merciful God. He is not a God of wrath and anger as some might portray. All of the Godhead are personages of light and love who want us to succeed. They don’t want to keep us out of the kingdom. They are not going to take agency away; it is contrary to the eternal laws, but they will do anything and everything in their power within those laws to gather their sheep and to bring their children home and to persuade in any way they can, those that are of the light, and that’s the complete opposite of the designs of the adversary.
Q: What classes can we take and what skills can we develop now to help us, besides the spiritual things that are preeminent?
Communication skills will be essential, because there will be a time when communications are discontinued or interrupted. Ham radio would be good to skill to develop.
Alternative healing, and there’s a broad spectrum there, though I would caution those involved in it to discern, because the adversary can and will imitate anything that is of the light, so don’t throw it all out and say that it’s all bad.
Essential oils and energy healing is of the light, but there are those that are channeled through the dark, so you need to pray about it and discern what is right. Satan wants you to throw it all out and say that it’s wrong, but the Lord wants you to discern.
Medical doctors, nurses, and hands-on medical training will be essential, and I’ve had hundreds of people contact me and say that they’ve had impressions of things that they need to learn. I had one friend who felt she needed to learn how to keep bees, and that was interesting because I’ve seen beehives and beekeepers in the camps. So that’s a skill that a person may feel they are impressed to learn. There are so many things on a preparation level, and they are all things that will be important, whether you go or stay. They are important skills for us to have now, and they will be important through the tribulations, and in the eternities.
Q: Some of the disasters that I’ve had in my life were when I’ve ignored promptings.
Same with me. I’ve had many people ask me, “How do I know if what I’m feeling is a prompting from God, or if it was just from me, how can I discern that?” Some of my learning curves has come from times when I failed to heed the promptings of the spirit, and I’ve paid dear consequences of that. Because of that, I’ve learned to more recognize the promptings, and it takes practice. But unfortunately in our future, there’s going to be some things that we really can’t afford to get wrong. I will say that a starting point, is that if it’s something that motivates you to do good or of the light, does it really matter if it came from God or from your brain? Because the way the Lord works is, he doesn’t command in all things and he wants us to learn, and once we learn that, then He doesn’t necessarily have to tell us every time. So it can come from us, and it can come from the Lord, and we give credit to the Lord no matter what.
The ministering and guardian angels on the other side of the veil are our ancestors, and they literally whisper in our ears and inspire us, and we might have thoughts and impressions come to our mind. Act on them. If they are good and of the light, then they are of God, and act on them. If they’re not of the light and are not something good, then you can recognize the source there and you can do what you need to do to get rid of that and then focus on the light.
Thoughts are energies, so focus on the light. Focus on hope, focus on love, focus on gratitude, and you will find that it will come back tenfold and they will help open the way for you to increase your faith and they all go hand in hand. The scriptures say that without charity we are nothing but in order to have charity, we have to have faith and hope.
Q: Did you see 9/11?
Some of it.
Q: Was it caused by our government or caused by Saudi Arabians as has been portrayed?
I can’t go into detail but can say that gaddiantons on every level were involved.
Q: What do we have to do to be cleansed?
That is individual. What I need may be different from what someone else needs. Hopefully we work on it and do what we need to do through the power of the atonement. My hope is that I can get to the point where I can immediately recognize where I’ve erred and correct it immediately, and ultimately get to the point where I’m making fewer and fewer mistakes. But we’re never going to get perfect on this earth and that’s why we have a Savior, and that’s the mission of Jesus Christ. Recognize that he’s the Savior of all mankind. He has already suffered for us and to not utilize that is not only foolish but needless, because the price has already been paid and we need to accept that gift in our lives. One of Satan’s greatest tools is discouragement and when we have messed up on whatever level, he tries to convince us that we’re too late, that we’re too awful, that we’re sin bound, and one of his greatest tactics is shame. If you are feeling shame in your life, that is not of the Lord. Shame is different than guilt. Guilt is the natural consequence of poor choices we’ve made and it’s given to us through the light of Christ and that’s how me know that we need to make a correction, and that’s different from shame. If we have done something wrong and we have done something wrong and we have made it right through confessing it and fixing it, we need to forgive ourselves and let it go. To fail to do so, only gives the adversary power, and until we let go of that, we cannot move forward.
Q: Why do you have to remain so obscure and quiet about so many things that you’ve seen?
There’s going to come a day when everyone is going to know, and I’m looking forward to that, when the veil is gone. People will know that this was my mission, and they will understand. I’ve been told a little about why the Lord wants it to be this way and it’s not a secret thing, it’s a sacred thing, and is absolute factual truth, and some things are only meant for me. I do not have stewardship and it is wrong of me to tell any other individual what choices would be right for them to make, and it’s a very fine line, and I face very heavy consequences if I cross that, and I am not willing to do that, so I would rather err on the side of caution.
Also, it’s a trust thing. The Lord has trusted me and that’s no small thing. Additionally, there are some things that are too sacred. It might be appropriate for me to have a one-on-one conversation, but I’m not going to say things over the air, or put them in a book, or put them all over the internet. I don’t know the intents of an individual’s heart and what he plans to do with the information unless the spirit tells me, if he plans to twist and turn my words and the things that are of the light into something that is not of the Lord.
Q: Did you see the Meadow Mountain Massacre?
Yes but I don’t have a lot of clarity on it. I remember basics but not enough, and it has been my experience that if the Lord wants me to share it, I will have clarity it, so I can’t get into it.
Q: Will the Ten Tribes return in the next 5 or 10 years do you think, or later, or before the second coming?
We all have our time here on earth, and I have some clarity but can’t give you specifics because I don’t have stewardship. Also, there are some things that were made known to me to help me have clarity and understanding as it pertains to my life, and how long I may or may not be on the earth. What I can say is I have the understanding that it will happen in my lifetime, and I will be 42 in January.
Q: What is God’s position on homosexual marriage?
I cannot speak for God. Anyone who wants to know His position should ask Him. He’s already given His word in the Bible.
Q: Children are presently allowed to cross our borders, and are flooding in by the hundreds of thousands. Is this part of an invasion of our country?
It’s the beginning. It’s been prophesied in scripture and there will be more coming, both from the north and from the south.
Q: Do you see this as part of the “mobs that will go through our land as a lion?”
Absolutely. This is just a little precursor to desensitize us. Again I need to emphasize, those who heed the call to gather are not going to be protected from everything, because it is a cleansing for all of us, but the invasion will occur after.
Q: We have a presidential election coming up in 2016. There has been much speculation over things that are going on in our government right now, and the fact that the last election was stolen. There may not even be an actual election. Do you have any comment on that?
Correction, the last two elections were stolen. When you are invited to gather, you need to join. Don’t delay. I have been shown some of that and I need to be careful how I say this so my words are not misconstrued. My understanding is that martial law will be declared after the gathering.
Q: To reiterate, you are not saying to be packed and ready to go right now, but to get prepared?
Right now we need to be preparing. When the time comes to go, we can’t prepare then; we need to be prepared and ready. For now, we still need to be “planting our cherry trees,” we still need to live our lives. Spiritual preparedness goes hand in hand with temporal preparedness. If you are preparing spiritually the way you need to be, the spirit will prompt you how you need to temporally prepare.
Q: Was Muhammad a real prophet or a misguided one?
(Long pause) That’s not part of the mission I have to testify and witness of Christ.
Q: In the Salt Lake valley you saw a couple of major earthquakes. Describe what you saw.
The small earthquakes that you’ve had over the past month or two were the beginning warning earthquakes, and there are going to be a few other warning earthquakes, maybe a little bit bigger than what you had or about the same. The really big ones will come, and I’ve seen them many times.
Hurricane-like winds, tornadoes, lightning, thunder, mudslides, water coming up from the earth, lakes and rivers heaving beyond their bounds, complete chaos, lots of flooding. I actually thought of it while I was driving here from Pleasant Grove, how the point of the mountain is going to slide right off. The temples will be protected, there will be some damage done to them but they will withstand. Entire homes demolished, and it will be truly horrific.
Q: Is that before or after the gathering?
After, and one of the reasons I know that is because I was shown pertains to my family because we come from the Kansas City area and travel a route that brings us south, through New Mexico, Arizona, Price Canyon, and we spend a night or two in Utah county before we reach our final destination which is in a camp further north. We have to travel the highways that go through Utah county, Salt Lake, and Wasatch county. I was shown that when those earthquakes occur, the highways will become impassible. And when we traveled, there was a real sense of urgency.
Q: How will the message be given to the saints that it’s time to leave?
I can’t speak for every area in the world, because I wasn’t shown that, I don’t have stewardship and other areas don’t pertain to me, but I saw that in my area, it would be a broadcast. First a letter from the First Presidency that was read from the pulpit, and then a broadcast at 6 or 7 at night. It won’t be general information given from the bishop or stake president but it will be official communications through the First Presidency.
Q: It’s been my experience that some members will hear of a special meeting and think, “nah.”
Oh yes. There are lots of members who will say, “ehh, I don’t want to be at that.” You want to be at that meeting. The other thing that I saw, and I think this will resonate with anyone who has ever had small children: we will be encouraged to have both spouses at the meeting. Nobody will force anyone to attend; we will be encouraged. There will be cases when one spouse or even both spouses choose not to attend, and sadly in some situations I did see that when one spouse attends and the other spouse asks what the meeting was about, they don’t really give the message, similar to the way that Joseph Haun did not give the prophet’s message to the saints at the mill.
Q: There are professional anti’s out there, who want to discredit anyone who has had an experience that is faith-promoting and reaffirms a belief in Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ.
If you come across someone like that, please come to my defense because I’m not going to have the time to defend myself to everyone like that. My mission is to witness and to testify, and there is nothing to defend. It is the truth and I will not be put in a position where I need to defend. It’s my understanding that there are some online forums where people are trying to stir the pot and do whatever they can to dissent or take away from the message that the Lord would have us to know, and to those I say “Stop it.” You do not know what you are messing with and I am not talking about me. I’m talking about the ultimate higher power.
Q: Father wouldn’t have given you this experience if there wasn’t some purpose for it.
Right, and I can tell you that what I am doing is no easy thing. The only reason I am able to do it is because I know what I know, and I have a conviction and such a strong love for our Father in Heaven and our Savior, and have such respect for their knowledge and their power, that I fear man far less than I fear God, to the point that I almost do not fear man because I know who my master is.
Having said that, I’m not inviting anyone to “bring it on.” I’ve had several years of preparation and I’ve had a tough couple of months. Calling me the names that I’ve been called is not going to shake my testimony or shake my faith in delivering the message that I have to give. They really should save their energy. Again, that is not a challenge. I just want to say that the Lord loves all of his children, and often those who are the most anti-religion or anti-light, I like to think that they are just confused and don’t know. It softens my heart because I think, when there are those who do that on any level, it is not of the light. This is not about me, this is about what does the Lord want us to know? To me, that’s the end of the conversation.
Whenever we are faced with opposition of any kind, we can back down from the challenge, or we can recognize the source of that opposition, and remember that opposition is part of the plan, and that opposition gives me clarity and understanding and greater faith and a sure knowledge of how important this message really is.
Q: Absolutely nothing that you’ve said today contradicts the scriptures or the words of the brethren.
I would hope that if there comes a day when I do, that someone would call me on it, because that’s what I would do for my brother or sister.
Q: The scriptures talk of a separation of the wheat from the tares in the last days. Did you see any of this?
Yes, it’s been going on and is going to keep going on and will intensify, but it’s necessary. Anything that’s in the scriptures has a purpose, and for our learning and our growth in our day. It wouldn’t be in the scriptures if it wasn’t going to come to pass.
Q: Would you say that this movement of women who want the priesthood is part of that separation?
My feelings on that are personal so I’m not going to get into that, but what I will share is that there are many siftings going on all over, and most often we sift ourselves.
Q: What type of transportation will we use to go to New Jerusalem?
There’s going to be the initial gathering, and then later on there will be specific individuals who will be called to go establish the New Jerusalem. Not everyone, but specific people assigned to do that, and there will be people called to go back to their homes and lands, and sometimes they will be asked to go to foreign lands. At that point in time there will be different types of transportation, but I would say the primary mode of transportation is by foot, and that is also prophesied in the scriptures, and is one of the reasons why it is good to pay attention to the early pioneer stories.
Q: During your experience, did you see any undiscovered species of animals on the earth that are yet to be found?
Yes. I’m not going to tell you what they are because I don’t remember all of their names, but I have impressions in my mind, and I remember that that was explained to me. And I saw many that are not on the earth now.
Q: How about Yeti?
My kids asked about this because Bigfoot is near and dear to them. So for the people who want to criticize and explain me away as some crazy lady, I’m going to give you some ammunition: do some research on Bigfoot.
Q: So it’s real, then?
I think if someone was to research it, they could come to that answer themselves. That’s just a funny little tidbit that is not part of my mission and can distract, so we don’t want to focus on it.
Honestly, any truth that the Lord wants us to know, no matter what it is, He will make it known to us. Anything that’s scientific, non-falsified true science, goes hand in hand with true doctrine.
Q: That makes me think about Global Warming.
There are weather pattern changes going on, but look to the scriptures for that and take it as the sign of the times that we are in.
Q: Many organizations talk about a dark star that is approaching the earth, some refer to it as Planet X, did you see anything like this?
I have. There’s that one and there are others. Some will get very close to the earth and we will have splinters off of meteors and such, and some of those are just preparatory for what’s coming for the ultimate final cleansing. Some of it is to test man’s faith and add to the signs of the times.
Also, one of the reason is it serves the natural laws of the universe that have always been in play, and anyone who studies any kind of earth sciences and physics can understand those from a logical scientific standpoint, but all true science and all spiritual religious truths all go hand in hand, there is no conflict there, so yes, we are going to have them, along with the blood moons, which there is significance to, that I cannot get into.
Q: What about the fact that these events like Blood Moons are occurring on specific holy days?
They are not coincidental. One of President Monson’s frequent teachings is that there are no coincidences. It’s not coincidental that you meet certain individuals in your life, it’s not coincidental that we have certain circumstances happen to us, it’s not coincidental that we have those blood moons on those specific days, and it’s not coincidental that we’re having meteors or anything else, it’s all part of the grand plan.
Q: Will it be only saints gathering in the tent cities before the earthquake?
There will be regular tent cities that I call “places of refuge,” which are organized, assigned, set up and established properties owned by the LDS church, and there will be other denominations with their own tent cities and places. And then there will be those places of refuge that later on will become cities of light, but quite honestly, discussing them over the air to a general audience is not an appropriate setting to give more clarification at this time.
But there will be tent cities, and even within those places of refuge there will be some non-LDS members, and there will be baptisms, family history work, and those kinds of things that pertain to the eternal purposes that God has for us will still be going on. Just think third-world country.
When it comes to tent cities of whatever denomination, after we are called to gather and then the foreign troops invade and many disasters begin happening, there are safety in numbers so people will begin naturally gathering into tent cities, either because they’ve lost their homes and/or there’s no electricity or communication.
Q: So there will there will be safety in those groups?
Varying degrees of safety, depending on where you are.
Q: You saw your husband out on patrol in a place of refuge, so that means we will be responsible for defending ourselves?
Yes.
Q: Concerning the timing, you said something about your husband’s hair?
What I was shown was at the time that we leave the Kansas City area and go to the places of refuge, he has about as much hair as he has right now. He’s losing a little on top, and he has about that much now. What I was shown was he didn’t have very much grey, and he’s just now starting to get some grey.
Q: So if you were to guess, would you say that this change is going to happen in the next 2 to 3 years?
Rather than answer like that, let me give you an example, and take this with a grain of salt.
(Pauses) Wow. (Pause) I’m going into a pause right now. (Pause) Something that I will say and I’m going to put this out there, is that the veil is very thin for me, and I’m not going to go into detail other than to say that I, in a very real way, experience both the light and the dark and the impact that they can have, and what I’m about to share with you, those of the dark do not want you to know. So take heed, and listen.
We’ve been married over 18 years, and we always buy used cars. Our pattern has always been that we keep our cars for approximately 5 years because we buy older cars that we can pay cash for. We always do what we can afford. My husband is very mechanically inclined, and that’s one of the reasons that we buy older cars, because he can work on them. Our pattern has been that he researches the cars, and then together we decide which vehicle is right.
When I had my experience I was shown that we were caravanning out, with his family and other people in the Kansas City area, and at that time I was shown what vehicle we were driving. I never told him what it was, I only told him it was an SUV. On one occasion I may have told him it was a dark-colored SUV, but I just know I never told him the style or the type or that it was a full-size SUV.
Last December, it was time for us to purchase another car. He had been researching cars for over a year, and had decided on a different make and model. Never once did I suggest to him the actual make and model of the car that we would purchase. I left that up to him. He found one online and immediately the spirit said, “that’s your car.” A week went by and he could not get it out of his brain. We ended up that afternoon going car shopping and we looked at 8 or 10 different cars, but the one he saw online was the one we ended up buying and it was the one that I was shown in 2004. We bought the car last December, we never keep a car more than 5 years, and we were driving that car to the place of refuge.
Q: How much can you talk about the 2016 election?
How much can I or how much will I? I’m not going to go there because it’s irrelevant to the message that I have which is to get your houses in order, get prepared, and heed the call.
Q: Do you know of good companies that are involved in helping people get prepared?
I know there are several, I don’t personally know them, and we have the internet which is a great resource, but of course we can’t trust everything on the internet.
Q: Some people question what they should do with their expired food storage.
Do not throw it out. I would even venture to say that if you have thirty-year-old wheat, keep it anyway. I want to emphasize, do not throw it out. It will be helpful, if not to you, to someone else, and we are going to see miracles happen in the future and some of that food that has gone rancid, will be purified and made edible. If you know someone who is going to throw theirs out, ask if you can have it.
Q: Is there anything specific we should do with our diet now?
That’s been given to us. Just follow Section 89, read between the lines, and the spirit will help you with that.
Q: You wanted to say something about the plagues?
It’s been made known to me that there will be those who claim to have come up with miracle cures for the plagues. They are either deceiving or they are deceived and seek to deceive. There is not a cure-all for the plagues; there are going to be so many plagues and some will be man-made. There will be some things that will help, like some of the essential oils and things like that, but be aware of Plague-B-Gones. I have been shown that there are people who will claim that they’ve had divine intervention and that angels told them how to make it, and to them I say that not every angel is an angel of the light.
Q: Do you see anything with the Yellowstone caldera cook-off soon, with the roads there currently melting?
When I heard the news, I did immediately recognize that as something that I was shown. To anyone going there I would just say, use your brains, the Lord gave them to you for a reason, don’t do anything foolish, and don’t go anywhere that has been closed off.
Q: Do you know of more happening there more towards the cleansing period, rather than before the Savior comes?
I do not have total clarity and recollection as to the timing of that, if it was made known to me I don’t remember it, which tells me that the Lord does not want me discussing that and doesn’t even want me knowing that, either because it’s irrelevant to what’s going on in my life and my purpose and mission, or it’s irrelevant to why He chose to have me give this message. It’s not part of the message that I’m supposed to give.
That being said, pay attention to what’s going on and be wise, but we do not need to be fearful. We need to have faith.
Q: You’ve seen deception and evil in the highest levels of government, and it’s going to get worse?
That’s correct, and there are no words. I honestly don’t know how I can even begin to express, and perhaps that’s also because I’m not supposed to, because my message is on putting your trust and your faith in the Lord and His plan, and not getting caught up and being fearful and the doomsday and all of the awfulness.
We are living in a beautiful day and age, and I wish there were a way that I could vividly explain and elaborate on how absolutely glorious it is going to be, and on how magnificent the experiences that we are going to have, and we can have them now. We just need to open our hearts.
Q: When we go to the tent cities, do we go with our individual families, or do we go as a ward or a stake?
Some of both. The church is an organization organized by stakes, and those are not details that we need to be concerned about, and I say that because the Lord has a plan for all of us and we just need to trust Him, and there will be so many different circumstances that I can’t speak for each individual.
Q: Did you get a feeling of how long we’ll be in the tent cities before things really fall apart?
That’s a relative term. Things will start to fall apart before we gather, but some of us will be asked to stay behind to help with some things, so it will be weeks before things start to really, really fall apart and come to fruition, and some things will not happen for quite some time, so that’s really a complex question. We’ll be in the camps for several years.
To illustrate, if you look in the scriptures, there are patterns that we can find there. For example, if you look at the story of Lot and his wife, the Lord warned Lot in advance, and then when He told him that it was time to go, they got out quickly, and then they were told to not look back. Same thing when Lehi led his family out of Jerusalem, he knew for many years that the day would come when he would need to lead his family, so they prepared, and then when it was time for the Lord to tell them that it was time to go, they had to act quickly and obediently.
Something that people may not know or recall, in many of those stories, like the days of Noah, it was nearly 120 years that he preached repentance and tried to prepare the people, and that’s no different than us. If you look at the history of even the LDS church, we’ve been given guidance and warnings for decades now, and when it’s time, it will be time, and time is short, meaning we need to be ready to act. We need to have our preparations in order and not to hesitate and not to look back.
Q: That is critical because what I’ve garnered from you is that there are going to be people who attend the meeting and say, “they’ve got to be kidding, I’m not going to leave. I’ve got a job, everything is fine, there is no chaos.”
Yes there will be that. And then there will be those stalwart individuals who, whether they have a knowledge of it or not, they do know how to trust their God, and trust their leaders, and they have learned to discern truth. Some will go out of mere obedience. It will take great faith, but for those who may not have faith, they may know how to act out of mere obedience.
But there will come a time when in order to stay in the camps and survive the camps and endure the camps, we will have to rely on our faith, because the destructions don’t happen the day after we get to camp. We are going to get news, I don’t have clarity on how it happens, but there’s going to be news that nothing really big has happened in the valley, there’s been no earthquake, there’s no foreign troops, what am I doing here? I have a perfectly nice home, nice car, a hot shower, I could sure use a bath, and it’s only two hours away, why am I camping in a tent in the middle of nowhere? This is crazy, this is ridiculous. And sadly, they leave. And when they leave, they will not be able to come back, and I can’t go into detail on that other than to say, that I did see so many different scenarios and one clear one was that people were there for a couple of weeks and they heard that nothing was going on in the valley, so they pack up their family and they leave, and then shortly after, wham-o. And I don’t want to be that person.
Q: Did you see any significant signs that happened just before we were told to leave?
They’ve been happening, they’re still happening, and they’re going to continue to happen. I can’t get into specifics other than to say, that we’ve all been given gifts and talents, and the Lord encourages all of his children, no matter what our status in life or upbringing, he has given the light of Christ to every single one of us.
Q: You have seen the Savior. You were shown that very sacred experience. What is it going to be like for those who are ready to have that experience?
Are we ever ready? I hope and pray every day that I am ready. I have a lot to work on. We have a very loving, tender, and merciful God, and He gives us the trials and tests that He does to help us grow, and help us prepare, and it’s all going to be just great.
Q: Thank you for sharing this experience and helping us to get a better understanding of what’s ahead.
I’d like to say something to the audience. If you find that this has been of interest of you, I appreciate it if you can invite people to log on and listen to the show, so they can listen with their own ears and discern with their own heart, rather than you interpreting it for them, because the message can be lost there.
Mills Crenshaw radio archives (then click on Julie Rowe):
http://www.k-talk.com/index.php/archive/
The first two chapters of her book can be read online:
http://www.abysmal.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AGT
The ninth chapter:
http://www.nofearpreps.com/a-better-tomorrow.html